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Russian tanks enter South Ossetia
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11 Aug 2008 Mon 07:21 am |
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You seem to be obsessed with ´vinager´ Trudy..
Only for those who deserve it.
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| 21. |
11 Aug 2008 Mon 12:52 pm |
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Is the old U.S.S.R. returning? Is this resurgence of military power a sign? What are your thoughts?
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| 22. |
11 Aug 2008 Mon 02:59 pm |
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I wonder if Turkey would intervene and help the Georgians, however I doubt it since they are not a sufficient interest to them.. ):
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 03:45 am |
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Actually the argument Russia´s using is just like the one US used to justify their presence in Iraq. They call themselves peace-warrants in that region. Of course that´s not really why they´re there. It´s all about power. Oil lines from the East go either through Georgia or Russia. Georgia gave Russia a reason to interfere - massacres of Russian citizens in Ossetia. Now Russians say they won´t back down until peace is restored in Georia.
It´s not comeback of USSR but it is demonstration of Russia´s power. Also, like I said before, it shows world opinion´s hypocrisy - yesterday I saw an interview with Putin who said that the world didn´t oppose US invasion in Iraq, the reason being doing away with the riegime guilty of a number of deaths. And the same world condemns Russia for entering Georgia that has been burning down whole villages killing its inhabitants. He said the world´d done nothing about the situation in Ossetia and somebody had to protect Russian citizens living there.
I am not fond of one country´s intervention in another and I see no high moral ground there but there is some truth to what he said - you can´t support US invasion in Iraq and condemn the Russian one in Georgia, you can´t vote in favour of Kosovo´s independence and claim that Ossetia is an integral part of Georgia´s territory.
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 08:29 am |
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Actually the argument Russia´s using is just like the one US used to justify their presence in Iraq. They call themselves peace-warrants in that region. Of course that´s not really why they´re there. It´s all about power. Oil lines from the East go either through Georgia or Russia. Georgia gave Russia a reason to interfere - massacres of Russian citizens in Ossetia. Now Russians say they won´t back down until peace is restored in Georia.
It´s not comeback of USSR but it is demonstration of Russia´s power. Also, like I said before, it shows world opinion´s hypocrisy - yesterday I saw an interview with Putin who said that the world didn´t oppose US invasion in Iraq, the reason being doing away with the riegime guilty of a number of deaths. And the same world condemns Russia for entering Georgia that has been burning down whole villages killing its inhabitants. He said the world´d done nothing about the situation in Ossetia and somebody had to protect Russian citizens living there.
I am not fond of one country´s intervention in another and I see no high moral ground there but there is some truth to what he said - you can´t support US invasion in Iraq and condemn the Russian one in Georgia, you can´t vote in favour of Kosovo´s independence and claim that Ossetia is an integral part of Georgia´s territory.
Is it okay to murder indiscriminately because of what the USA and the UK have done in the past and the present. Does it make it ok? I´ve seen videos of AlQuada using that same logic when it comes to what the UK did under Queen Victoria. I don´t believe in wholesale murder because people don´t like what happened in the past/present and who our allies are.
The moral equivalency comparison has gotten so old it’s lost its usefulness and perpetuates problems, including the position of whose lives has more value than another.
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 08:41 am |
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Of course it´s not ok to murder. But Georgia gave Russia reason to intervene by slaughtering Russian citizens living in Ossetia. Let´s hope the conflict (war?) over thre will come to an end quickly and no more civilians will get killed or hurt
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 03:05 pm |
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Is it okay to murder indiscriminately because of what the USA and the UK have done in the past and the present. Does it make it ok? I´ve seen videos of AlQuada using that same logic when it comes to what the UK did under Queen Victoria. I don´t believe in wholesale murder because people don´t like what happened in the past/present and who our allies are.
The moral equivalency comparison has gotten so old it’s lost its usefulness and perpetuates problems, including the position of whose lives has more value than another.
I think DD is absolutley right.
USA and the UK are at the top of the list when it comes to going to the war and killing innocent people.
I found it quite ironic and laugable really when USA administration says:
"I said this violence is unacceptable" , "unacceptable in the 21st Century" " Moscow is guilty of a dramatic and brutal escalation".
"must not go unanswered" Chaney..
Do they really think people forgot Iraq and Afghanistan and want people to believe them ?
They are ludicrously funny..
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 03:12 pm |
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the gang is assembling! where is catwoman and the others?
I congratulate you on your reply that is right on the topic! This is a response of a desparate losing person who has no reasonable replies left.
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 03:18 pm |
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I think DD is absolutley right.
USA and the UK are at the top of the list when it comes to going to the war and killing innocent people.
I found it quite ironic and laugable really when USA administration says:
"I said this violence is unacceptable" , "unacceptable in the 21st Century" " Moscow is guilty of a dramatic and brutal escalation".
"must not go unanswered" Chaney..
Do they really think people forgot Iraq and Afghanistan and want people to believe them ?
They are ludicrously funny..
But you didn´t find it laughable when Turkey insisted we help them in Northern Iraq with the PKK. Again, this is the same logic that terrorists use.
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| 29. |
12 Aug 2008 Tue 03:20 pm |
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Didn´t handsom disagree with bombing Northern Iraq? And of course it is very laughable and utter hipocricy when US and UK preach about what is acceptable. The whole world protested against their actions and they didn´t change anything. It´s pathetic.
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 03:25 pm |
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But you didn´t find it laughable when Turkey insisted we help them in Northern Iraq with the PKK. Again, this is the same logic that terrorists use.
But do you think is it the same with the current issue?
And Saarkasvili is very guilty at this step!! He was having bad times at Georgia and he wanted to gurantee next elections with such a stupid move!!!
Russia was very jealous of the pipe line Baku-Tibilisi-Ceyhan and now they have chance to hit it wrongly
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